From 6cff31e0adb3af5358c041709d30d8df6f2e6f3b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Phil Morrell Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2022 20:10:43 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] upload third meeting --- content/2022-04-24.md | 95 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ content/_index.md | 3 +- 2 files changed, 97 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) create mode 100644 content/2022-04-24.md diff --git a/content/2022-04-24.md b/content/2022-04-24.md new file mode 100644 index 0000000..6021f36 --- /dev/null +++ b/content/2022-04-24.md @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ ++++ +title = "Meeting Minutes #3" ++++ + + +# Libre Gaming meeting minutes #3 + +## Attending + +Attending: emorrp1, hribhrib, seabass, ThinkSome, librebob, poVoq, Xilef + +## Agenda + +* Matchbot, which version? + * Andrews new version? Was just a quick fix? + * Hribhrib will try to host the Clojure version? Maybe convert into Matrix bot? +* Take up offer for free Lemmy hosting (one year limited)? + * communities.libregaming.org? Lemmy.libregaming.org discuss.libregaming.org? forum.libregaming.org? + * CNAME offer to trial before self-hosting, no .well-known (yet) + * do we even need our own instance? - could just have a community, or offer as a service for games + * does this federate with e.g. [https://lemmy.ml/c/opensourcegames](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensourcegames) + * if someone has an account on libregaming.org, they can subscribe to the lemmy.ml/c/opensourcegames + * crossposting to promote the existing community + * see also overlap with Okapi - fracturing? + * FGD currently has flarum +* Website status update (postponed, no-one working on it present) +* Affiliated communities update: + * onFOSS has had some independent work - will probably merge with LibreGaming, but TBD + * freegamedev - still separate, but happy to have lots of overlap, closer to opengameart.org + * libregamenight - is there actually any difference in membership? (seems to be the on-topic chat) + + +* LibreSpades and other asset liberation activities, status update - any role for libregaming.org? + * status: maintainer needed + * status: works without non-free assets + * needs: new models for player characters. Currently these are small red boxes floating about. This makes it hard to tell enemies/friendlies apart. + * needs: new models for weapons. Is playable without + * needs: new sounds/music + * look into this?: [https://github.com/xtreme8000/BetterSpades](https://github.com/xtreme8000/BetterSpades) + * has GPL3? assets, but needs licensing checking + * needs a flatpak submitted to flathub! ([https://github.com/xtreme8000/BetterSpades/pull/115)](https://github.com/xtreme8000/BetterSpades/pull/115)) + * Top-N Most Important Projects + * we could list this to point people at high-value quick-wins for e.g. asset creation + * For assets, can make a Collection on opengameart, for needs-replacement stuff (think weblate but for game assets not translations) +* Status of non-free games in matchbot and #libregaming-matchmaking + * Remove them altogether? + * No thanks + * Anti-feature tagging and warnings? (specing bot) + * HIGHLY AGREEABLE, but needs work + * I'd just like to interject for a moment... + * Remove them if no action is being done on replacing non-free bits? + * maybe a bit more reasonable + * perhaps have a #libregaming-nonlibre? + * TBD: see action +* Re-hash what exactly is LibreGaming policy on levels of libre-ness of projects (i.e. antifeature labelling vs. discounting the project) +* Status update Okapi (ContentDB fork) (postponed - no Armen) + * Client integration with Arcadia etc? [https://tauri.studio/](https://tauri.studio/) (electron like) Client? + * would like this running, hosting needs python flask, is it good enough we can start having accounts? + * [https://games.armen138.com/](https://games.armen138.com/) (test instastance) +* Arcadia status update + * rewriting because python c/c++ bindings are hard, uses qml + * possible windows package repository?: [https://community.chocolatey.org/packages?q=SuperTuxKart](https://community.chocolatey.org/packages?q=SuperTuxKart) + * any Windows players anyway? onFOSS, Xonotic, Mindustry, Veloren, but they don't tend to be active in our dev sides - outreach to find someone willing + * 0install is kinda like AppImage + * some related projects to steal ideas from: [https://playnite.link/](https://playnite.link/) [https://luxtorpeda.gitlab.io/](https://luxtorpeda.gitlab.io/) + * don't want to host files, need to get them from somewhere - Okapi? (itch.io is non-free) + * productivity comes in cycles and arcadia development prone to long periods of inactivity +* Chat bridging status update (Veloren bridge by Timo currently down) + * Maybe try bridging through IRC? Freegamedev brdges. + * Matrix: Synapse vs Conduit, but if conduit bridging worked fine then Timo would probably do it +* SteamDeck and libregaming? + * find someone who actually has one + * "SteamDeck compatible" feature labelling on libre games (a la protondb) + * uses flatpak to distribute non-Steam software +* Discussion about a Code of Conduct (that was on the agenda for the last one but didn't happen, correct me if I'm wrong) + * not really discussed, don't really need one for now, +* Outreach/publicity + * fun memes like "don't use X, check out Y" + * "mum, I want minetest. We have minetest at home ... :(" + * lean into the fact they're not going to be exact matches + * Why doesn't MarioKart let you play as Tux? + * /r/linuxmasterrace - /c/linuxmasterrace ? +* Next meeting could be in 1 month if someone steps forward - try and have it by July at the latest (no longer than 3 months away) + +## Actions + +* hribhrib to host clojure matchbot +* seabass to send hribhrib details of new matchmaking bot (Clojure version) for hosting +* poVoq to ask Lemmy devs for an instance on behalf of lemmy.libregaming.org +* emorrp1 to write out best understanding of ThinkSome's PoV, and consensus +* emorrp1 to raise issue and chase seabass for non-free tagging on matchbot +* poVoq+emorrp1 to fix #LibreGameNight to FGD bridging by going via Matrix rather than matterbridge +* librebob look into packagekit +* ThinkSome to document needed assets for LibreSpades for someone else to check if they're in BetterSpades +* emorrp1 to export minutes onto website diff --git a/content/_index.md b/content/_index.md index 70043fe..e9905f9 100644 --- a/content/_index.md +++ b/content/_index.md @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ We are a community dedicated to playing and developing [libre games], that is vi For example, we'd like to bring players alongside game developers and designers, as well as contributors to [libre games launchers] like [Athenaeum] and [GameHub]. We believe this approach can enrich and empower the entire libre gaming ecosystem. -We are just getting started. Feel free to contribute new ideas and feedback by [contacting us]. Check out [the preliminary notes] to our first meeting, as well as the [first] and [second] meeting's minutes. +We are just getting started. Feel free to contribute new ideas and feedback by [contacting us]. Check out [the preliminary notes] to our first meeting, as well as the [first], [second] and [third] meeting's minutes. [libre games]: @/play-libre-games.md [software]: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html @@ -21,6 +21,7 @@ We are just getting started. Feel free to contribute new ideas and feedback by [ [the preliminary notes]: https://hribhrib.at:5443/upload/5035aee454f8553c88bd1f7623218485341099ed/dZSQFC3lP1lMmTQFyfLKQFBBDIC4tOrQ41Js4nzn/firstthoughts.txt [first]: @/2021-08-07.md [second]: @/2022-01-30.md +[third]: @/2022-04-24.md ## We are