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<!-- SPDX-License-Identifier: CC0-1.0 -->
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# Libre Gaming meeting minutes #3
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## Attending
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Attending: emorrp1, hribhrib, seabass, ThinkSome, librebob, poVoq, Xilef
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## Agenda
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* Matchbot, which version?
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* Andrews new version? Was just a quick fix?
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* Hribhrib will try to host the Clojure version? Maybe convert into Matrix bot?
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* Take up offer for free Lemmy hosting (one year limited)?
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* communities.libregaming.org? Lemmy.libregaming.org discuss.libregaming.org? forum.libregaming.org?
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* CNAME offer to trial before self-hosting, no .well-known (yet)
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* do we even need our own instance? - could just have a community, or offer as a service for games
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* does this federate with e.g. [https://lemmy.ml/c/opensourcegames](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensourcegames)
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* if someone has an account on libregaming.org, they can subscribe to the lemmy.ml/c/opensourcegames
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* crossposting to promote the existing community
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* see also overlap with Okapi - fracturing?
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* FGD currently has flarum
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* Website status update (postponed, no-one working on it present)
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* Affiliated communities update:
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* onFOSS has had some independent work - will probably merge with LibreGaming, but TBD
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* freegamedev - still separate, but happy to have lots of overlap, closer to opengameart.org
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* libregamenight - is there actually any difference in membership? (seems to be the on-topic chat)
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* LibreSpades and other asset liberation activities, status update - any role for libregaming.org?
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* status: maintainer needed
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* status: works without non-free assets
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* needs: new models for player characters. Currently these are small red boxes floating about. This makes it hard to tell enemies/friendlies apart.
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* needs: new models for weapons. Is playable without
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* needs: new sounds/music
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* look into this?: [https://github.com/xtreme8000/BetterSpades](https://github.com/xtreme8000/BetterSpades)
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* has GPL3? assets, but needs licensing checking
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* needs a flatpak submitted to flathub! ([https://github.com/xtreme8000/BetterSpades/pull/115)](https://github.com/xtreme8000/BetterSpades/pull/115))
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* Top-N Most Important Projects
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* we could list this to point people at high-value quick-wins for e.g. asset creation
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* For assets, can make a Collection on opengameart, for needs-replacement stuff (think weblate but for game assets not translations)
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* Status of non-free games in matchbot and #libregaming-matchmaking
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* Remove them altogether?
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* No thanks
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* Anti-feature tagging and warnings? (specing bot)
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* HIGHLY AGREEABLE, but needs work
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* I'd just like to interject for a moment...
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* Remove them if no action is being done on replacing non-free bits?
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* maybe a bit more reasonable
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* perhaps have a #libregaming-nonlibre?
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* TBD: see action
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* Re-hash what exactly is LibreGaming policy on levels of libre-ness of projects (i.e. antifeature labelling vs. discounting the project)
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* Status update Okapi (ContentDB fork) (postponed - no Armen)
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* Client integration with Arcadia etc? [https://tauri.studio/](https://tauri.studio/) (electron like) Client?
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* would like this running, hosting needs python flask, is it good enough we can start having accounts?
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* [https://games.armen138.com/](https://games.armen138.com/) (test instastance)
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* Arcadia status update
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* rewriting because python c/c++ bindings are hard, uses qml
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* possible windows package repository?: [https://community.chocolatey.org/packages?q=SuperTuxKart](https://community.chocolatey.org/packages?q=SuperTuxKart)
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* any Windows players anyway? onFOSS, Xonotic, Mindustry, Veloren, but they don't tend to be active in our dev sides - outreach to find someone willing
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* 0install is kinda like AppImage
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* some related projects to steal ideas from: [https://playnite.link/](https://playnite.link/) [https://luxtorpeda.gitlab.io/](https://luxtorpeda.gitlab.io/)
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* don't want to host files, need to get them from somewhere - Okapi? (itch.io is non-free)
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* productivity comes in cycles and arcadia development prone to long periods of inactivity
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* Chat bridging status update (Veloren bridge by Timo currently down)
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* Maybe try bridging through IRC? Freegamedev brdges.
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* Matrix: Synapse vs Conduit, but if conduit bridging worked fine then Timo would probably do it
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* SteamDeck and libregaming?
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* find someone who actually has one
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* "SteamDeck compatible" feature labelling on libre games (a la protondb)
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* uses flatpak to distribute non-Steam software
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* Discussion about a Code of Conduct (that was on the agenda for the last one but didn't happen, correct me if I'm wrong)
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* not really discussed, don't really need one for now,
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* Outreach/publicity
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* fun memes like "don't use X, check out Y"
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* "mum, I want minetest. We have minetest at home ... <shows minecraft> :("
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* lean into the fact they're not going to be exact matches
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* Why doesn't MarioKart let you play as Tux?
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* /r/linuxmasterrace - /c/linuxmasterrace ?
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* Next meeting could be in 1 month if someone steps forward - try and have it by July at the latest (no longer than 3 months away)
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## Actions
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* hribhrib to host clojure matchbot
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* seabass to send hribhrib details of new matchmaking bot (Clojure version) for hosting
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* poVoq to ask Lemmy devs for an instance on behalf of lemmy.libregaming.org
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* emorrp1 to write out best understanding of ThinkSome's PoV, and consensus
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* emorrp1 to raise issue and chase seabass for non-free tagging on matchbot
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* poVoq+emorrp1 to fix #LibreGameNight to FGD bridging by going via Matrix rather than matterbridge
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* librebob look into packagekit
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* ThinkSome to document needed assets for LibreSpades for someone else to check if they're in BetterSpades
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* emorrp1 to export minutes onto website
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@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ We are a community dedicated to playing and developing [libre games], that is vi
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For example, we'd like to bring players alongside game developers and designers, as well as contributors to [libre games launchers] like [Athenaeum] and [GameHub]. We believe this approach can enrich and empower the entire libre gaming ecosystem.
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We are just getting started. Feel free to contribute new ideas and feedback by [contacting us]. Check out [the preliminary notes] to our first meeting, as well as the [first] and [second] meeting's minutes.
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We are just getting started. Feel free to contribute new ideas and feedback by [contacting us]. Check out [the preliminary notes] to our first meeting, as well as the [first], [second] and [third] meeting's minutes.
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[libre games]: @/play-libre-games.md
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[software]: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html
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@ -21,6 +21,7 @@ We are just getting started. Feel free to contribute new ideas and feedback by [
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[the preliminary notes]: https://hribhrib.at:5443/upload/5035aee454f8553c88bd1f7623218485341099ed/dZSQFC3lP1lMmTQFyfLKQFBBDIC4tOrQ41Js4nzn/firstthoughts.txt
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[first]: @/2021-08-07.md
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[second]: @/2022-01-30.md
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[third]: @/2022-04-24.md
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## We are
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